Narcotics Anonymous
Online Meetings & Recovery Chat Sites
www.NA-Recovery.org - www.NAChatroom.org - www.NARecoveryChat.net
Are Under
Robin_Y or Nibor_Y
Them & Other Names Lurking in the Shadows Sharpening their Knives as You Confess Your Sins
Narcotics Anonymous Meetings and NA-Recovery Chat Sites have been under Surveillance 24/7 for Years by a Robin_Y. They have bragged about advanced software permitting them unlimited access and confirmed documented conversations going back years of every conversation and IP address of every visitor, providing them searchable options for Federal & Local Law Enforcement. NARecoveryChat.net is the primary base of surveillance, where they promote an Atheist /Agnostic Religious format that rejects God/Spirit in disregard for the Traditions of NA as a whole. Scary thing there, you'll find a lot of verbal abuse, hate & bitterness, an example of a Godless program. As that Chat Site begins to die, Robin_Y & TommyGunn have migrated their hatred and bitterness to NAChatroom.org where they jest about brutal, cruel and abusive treatment of Wildlife. They constantly express perverse and prejudicial comments to taunt and harass members who need and ask for help with recovery. An athlete practices and trains to improve and perfect his performance for the final day of competition to win, but these Admin Op's openly practice their "Sicknesses" which only result in a performance of "Sickness" in what was once a place to practice "Recovery" so that "Recovery" might be what was performed. Any who do practice "Recovery" are soon harassed away from the chat sites these monsters reside in. Like Vultures they are hunting for the sick and diseased flesh of Newcomers to devour. They attack me every time I discuss the Narcotics Anonymous Program with Newcomers. These 2 are by far the worst examples of "Recovery" on the Internet, with the exception of Drew who acts like an absolute "idiot", who made his Higher Power = Donald Duck, but then isn't the First Step an admission that "Addiction" is a "higher power" and our lives were insane? What are the higher powers that some make gods out of? Easy to tell once they open their mouths.
For just as the body without [the] spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead. And isn't a tree known by the fruit it bears? A sick tree doesn't bear good fruit.
Any objection of Visitors will result in being BANNED permanently by Lon at www.NA-Recovery.org, who also "Governs his Chat Site with an Iron Fist against any Recovery Perspectives that disagree with his Interpretations, with complete disregard for NA Traditions and Concepts of Service
No One has any Right to attend or is Welcome at Lon's NA Meetings He sponsors at NA-Recovery.org unless you agree with his Perspectives on Recovery or make no objection to the monitoring or surveillance he supports & approves, yet the NA readings continue to state that they are under "No Surveillance". Then again Alex and others / them at NAChatroom.org are even worse with "self made gods as HPs, verbal abuse and open hate for the NA Basic Text literature, supplemented by Drew's own distorted opinion of what NA really is, even though he has never read a word of any of it and refuses to. Not much hope of learning NA Recovery there.
Anytime Hosts, Developers or Owners of Recovery Clubs & Recovery Chat Sites/Chanels, who Sponsor or Host NA Meetings begin Kicking, or Banishing & Banning Members and Visitors seeking Recovery from their Sites, Clubs and especially their NA Meetings as Un-Welcome Guests, they diminish and damage the Experience, Strength & Hope [ESH] of the Group's Conscience and limit it to their own level of understanding, or lack there of, and sickness, hurting and effectively damaging that Conscience of Narcotics Anonymous as a whole [themselves & all other members]. Kinda like he Book-Burning days of the old Nazi era and the censorship of ideas, such discriminating & oppresive attacks silences the voices of the fellowship and the application of recovery to individual lives, basically encouraging the continuation and growth of sickness, mimicking the oppressor' lack of recovery. And we can't forget the blood lust for animal cruelty expressed by Titan (Gary-who claims to be his own higher power) and TommyGunn (who boasts of playing pool at his local bars to show all how recovered he is), for torturing birds with antacids to watch them explode. "May we share our sickness with you?" NOT!!! I pray you will stop supporting these Sites and Clubs, for the benefit of NA as a whole. You are not so much entitled, but more worthy of something so much better than they expect you to accept. So keep coming back, at least here for better options that I will try to provide. But I do need some help providing a better perspective of Real Recovery because the small group offering Private Online Recovery today are Hippocratic Phonies.
Not Once have I witnessed Robin_Y talk or walk anything remotely resembling Recovery, but only Hate, Sexual Perversion, Prejudice & Verbal Abuse
Who in their right mind would want to document numerous years of drug addicts chatting about using and recovery and not learn something about the application of recovery to their life unless they felt no connection or need for recovery as easily seen in the lack of and abusive malicious harassment of so many as I have witnessed the person or persons pretending to be Robin_Y elicit over a period of 5 years. Only someone with ulterior motives conducts such surveillance. I doubt this person/persons are actually an addict, but rather a team of individuals monitoring Drug Addict NA Chat sites for incriminating evidence. Be sure their names will change
This Warning Page is Sponsored by an NA Member concerned for the Anonymity of Fellow Members seeking Recovery at Chat Sites falsely claiming to be NA Groups that disregard NA Traditions & Concepts adversely affecting NA as a whole. When the Clean play with Members who play in "Mud Hole" Sites, do the Muddy Members get "Cleaner" or do the "Clean" get Muddy Recovery? Who benefits by finding or sharing "Muddy Recovery" ? While NA Meetings OnLine are indispensable for the Disabled [Old Cripples like myself] & the Isolated, they however are NOT Safe and subject to The Tyranny of those who lack in Recovery but not Sickness
NA Groups & Meetings Owned by Developers & Hosts for this reason are not approved by NA yet they Unlawfully use NA Registered Logos as deceptive lures.
Proceed with Caution, Peace, Hope and Faith, and of course may God Bless You All with Healing Recovery from Addiction. Don't piss the owners off!!!
After all, they've unlawfully used Registered NA Trademarks & Copywrited Logos to lure you to their Chat Sites disregarding Traditions. Sound like Recovery behavior??
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In Loving Memory of My Snuggle Bunner, Shari L. Short, April 16, 1963 to December 11, 2009 (My Birthday)
Catastrophic Liver Rejection & Failure from Addiction Relapse and Use
Affectionately called, "Cowgirl Shari" in that cute hat /w long Blond hair,  purple boots & purple Bad-Girl gloves to compliment that Gorgeous tight figure
May You Find in Your Rest of Death the Peace that You could Never Find in Your Life of Addiction
It was there all along and I'm so Sorry I wasn't there to Help You Find it when You last Cried Out for Help
In Battle, a Soldier will cary his Comrade in Arms to Safety, even risking his own Life. We are Responsible to Offer a Hand Up to Any & All who ask for it
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Recovery from Addiction to Drugs isn't Simple or Easy. It's Hard and requires Courage!
It starts with Desire, Hope and finally Faith, but First it requires we Stop Using, face Withdrawals and then change Everything
[Thinking / Behaviors / Spirituality / Playgrounds / Playmates / Playthings]
You Never Have to Use Again! Ever! And you will slowly be returned to Sanity as your Values are restored to normal once you are Freed from the Fear & Pain of the Withdrawals which reversed our Values over time
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Twelve Steps of Narcotics Anonymous

1. We admitted that we were powerless over our addiction, that our lives had become unmanageable.

2. We came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.

3. We made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.

4. We made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.

5. We admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.

6. We were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.

7. We humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.

8. We made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.

9. We made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.

10. We continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.

11. We sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.

12. Having had a spiritual awakening as a result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to addicts, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.


Twelve Traditions of Narcotics Anonymous

1. Our common welfare should come first; personal recovery depends on NA unity.

2. For our group purpose there is but one ultimate authority—a loving God as He may express Himself in our group conscience. Our leaders are but trusted servants; they do not govern.

3. The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop using.

4. Each group should be autonomous except in matters affecting other groups or NA as a whole.

5. Each group has but one primary purpose—to carry the message to the addict who still suffers.

6. An NA group ought never endorse, finance, or lend the NA name to any related facility or outside enterprise, lest problems of money, property, or prestige divert us from our primary purpose.

7. Every NA group ought to be fully self-supporting, declining outside contributions.

8. Narcotics Anonymous should remain forever non-professional, but our service centers may employ special workers.

9. NA, as such, ought never be organized, but we may create service boards or committees directly responsible to those they serve.

10. Narcotics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the NA name ought never be drawn into public controversy.

11. Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion; we need always maintain personal anonymity at the level of press, radio, and films.

12. Anonymity is the spiritual foundation of all our traditions, ever reminding us to place principles before personalities.

Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions reprinted for adaptation by permission of AA World Services, Inc


Twelve Concepts of Service in Narcotics Anonymous

1. To fulfill our fellowship’s primary purpose, the NA groups have joined together to create a structure which develops, coordinates, and maintains services on behalf of NA as a whole.

2. The final responsibility and authority for NA services rests with the NA groups.

3. The NA groups delegate to the service structure the authority necessary to fulfill the responsibilities assigned to it.

4. Effective leadership is highly valued in Narcotics Anonymous. Leadership qualities should be carefully considered when selecting trusted servants.

5. For each responsibility assigned to the service structure, a single point of decision and accountability should be clearly defined.

6. Group conscience is the spiritual means by which we invite a loving God to influence our decisions.

7. All members of a service body bear substantial responsibility for that body’s decisions and should be allowed to fully participate in its decision-making processes.

8. Our service structure depends on the integrity and effectiveness of our communications.

9. All elements of our service structure have the responsibility to carefully consider all viewpoints in their decision-making processes.

10. Any member of a service body can petition that body for the redress of a personal grievance, without fear of reprisal.

11. NA funds are to be used to further our primary purpose, and must be managed responsibly.

12. In keeping with the spiritual nature of Narcotics Anonymous, our structure should always be one of service, never of government.


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One Last Thought about Recovery

The 1st Step is more accurately defined as an admission that we lost the ability to manage our lives and choice to use or not use drugs. It is further defined as an admission that addiction has become a Higher Power that we are "Powerless" over. It is the beginning of an awareness of sanity and the need for a solution by admission of the existence of a problem that we managed our lives in a state of insanity as we continued to use drugs which only made our lives more insane and regrettable.

The 2nd Step is the awareness of Hope in the possibility that a Higher Power, greater than ourselves can restore sanity to our lives by the help of other addicts in a group conscience as well as others working in our lives. We came to believe.

The 3rd Step is coming to a point where we have discovered the reality of our life being restored to sanity about our powerlessness over the disease of addiction and our inability to make rational decisions as a result of the insanity of our using drugs. After all, NA's "Allergy" concept, is that we have a Hyper-Sensitivity to drugs. We cannot choose to "Not Use Drugs". We simply use because it has become natural for us. Insanity is defined as: "The inability to make rational decisions." Only after we stop using and sanity has been restored to us, can we make a rational decision about a solution for our problem and decide on a solution for our future, to release our "Free Will to Choose" to a still Higher Power, a God of our limited understanding, and permit it (Him) to make our choices for us, in our best interest. At that point our lives become miracles. Those who proudly brag that they make their own choices to use or not use are responsible for their own recovery and are not miracles of God's choices or a God-given program called NA, confirming a failure to complete or comprehend the 3rd Step. They usually complain of repeated failures in understanding the 3rd Step. WOW, what an epiphany or is it merely a failure to grasp the obvious? Surrendering our right to choice and free will to a God of our understanding provides us the opportunity for our lives becoming a miracle and there is no miracle in recovery obtained from the limited perspective that comes from "Self Will Choices", but the Steps continue to help us restore Values and the Laws of Life's Terms to our Lives, but first we must abstain from "all" drugs to Recover. I love how some claim they are "clean" and use prescription pain meds.

Even my Doctor isn't that ignorant and pointed it out. Deviating from the prescribed directions in the slightest is relapse.

Luck has nothing to do with it. People who practice abuse & sickness live abuse & Spiritual sickness. Those who practice Recovery live Recovery.

It is unfortunate that the prejudices and resentments of NA Members who hate crediting God with their recovery and try to impose their rejection of NA's original perspectives on the rest of us NA Members who do believe, about God and of course the resentful misunderstandings of the religious or Christians who haven't a clue as to NA's literature or directives or true focus, result in perpetuating ignorance, a mistrust and rejection of the Recovery concepts NA offers.

Someday maybe they may open their eyes and see the Truth, but then again, maybe not.

I pray that God will reveal it to you and may you find Recovery and a Life of Joy once again.

Stop blaming the crap you made out of your life on God and everyone else! Take responsibility for being an ass hole and become that responsible member of society we ran away from, and Recover / Change for the better. You can do it. I've seen it.

Remember: We never have to use again or Live the Hell we were fooled to believe would never end!

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Short On Time?
When your day has run short and your new life's pressure has reached breaking levels, remember that it's okay to cut short your devotion to time for prayer, meditation and recovery. You'll always be welcome back home.

Romans 11:32 "For God has shut up all in disobedience that He might show mercy to all. 33 Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and unfathomable His ways! 34 For WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, OR WHO BECAME HIS COUNSELOR? 35 Or WHO HAS FIRST GIVEN TO HIM THAT IT MIGHT BE PAID BACK TO HIM AGAIN? 36 For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things. To Him [be] the glory forever. Amen." (NASB) Paul of Tarsus

Ephesians 4:29 “Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such [a word] as is good for edification according to the need [of the moment,] that it may give grace to those who hear.” (NASB) Paul of Tarsus

Proverbs 18:21 “Death and life are in the power of the tongue, And those who love it will eat its fruit.” (NASB) King Solomon

Proverbs 21:30 "There is no wisdom and no understanding And no counsel against the LORD." (NASB) King Solomon

Proverbs 21:13 “He who shuts his ear to the cry of the poor Will also cry himself and not be answered.” (NASB) King Solomon

Proverbs 1: 01 The proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel: 02 To know wisdom and instruction, To discern the sayings of understanding, 03 To receive instruction in wise behavior, Righteousness, justice and equity; 04 To give prudence to the naive, To the youth knowledge and discretion, 05 A wise man will hear and increase in learning, And a man of understanding will acquire wise counsel, " (NASB) King Solomon


“The physical aspect of our disease is the compulsive use of drugs: the inability to stop using once we have started. The mental aspect of our disease is the obsession, or overpowering desire to use, even when we are destroying our lives. The spiritual part of our disease is our total self-centeredness. We felt that we could stop whenever we wanted to, despite all evidence to the contrary. Denial, substitution, rationalization, justification, distrust of others, guilt, embarrassment, dereliction, degradation, isolation, and loss of control are all results of our disease.” [Page 17, How It Works, Fifth Edition NA Basic Text © 1988 / Page 20, How It Works, Sixth Edition NA Basic Text © 2008]

Solution to Self-centeredness & Selfishness: Less Self (Me-I-My-Mine-First) more Others, Giving & Serving


“We are willing to admit without reservation that we are allergic to drugs. Common sense tells us that it would be insane to go back to the source of our allergy. Our experience indicates that medicine cannot cure our illness.”, “Although physical and mental tolerance play a role, many drugs require no extended period of use to trigger allergic reactions. Our reaction to drugs is what makes us addicts, not how much we use.” [Page 5, Who Is an Addict, Fifth Edition NA Basic Text © 1988 / Page 5, How It Works, Sixth Edition NA Basic Text © 2008]


We know well the two things that make up true addiction: obsession and compulsion. Obsession — that fixed idea that takes us back time and time again to our particular drug, or some substitute, to recapture the ease and comfort we once knew.”, “Compulsion — once having started the process with one fix, one pill, or one drink we cannot stop through our own power of will. Because of our physical sensitivity to drugs, we are completely in the grip of a destructive power greater than ourselves.” [Page 70, Chapter Eight, We Do Recover, Fifth Edition NA Basic Text © 1988 / Page 87, Chapter Eight, We Do Recover, Sixth Edition NA Basic Text © 2008]


When we are not God-centered we are more self-centered. Likewise, “Gradually, as we become more God-centered than self-centered, our despair turns to hope.” [Page 76, Fifth Edition NA Basic Text © 1988 / Page 95, Sixth Edition NA Basic Text © 2008]


Contrary to ignorant misrepresentation & misunderstanding, NA is Not a religious program, Neither is it a Godless program as so many who practice religions of Agnosticism & Atheism, that reject Spirit & God, and impose their religious beliefs on the fellowship. NA is a simple spiritual program with only ONE Ultimate authority, God. "In Narcotics Anonymous, we rely on a loving God as He expresses Himself in our group conscience, rather than on personal opinion or ego."....“Narcotics Anonymous is a God-given program, and we can maintain our group in dignity only with group conscience and God’s love.” [Page 31, Tradition 2, First Edition NA Basic Text © 1982 / Page 59, Tradition 2, Second Edition NA Basic Text © 1982 / Page 59, Tradition 2, Third Edition Revised NA Basic Text © 1986 / Page 51, Tradition 2, Fifth Edition NA Basic Text © 1988 / Page 64, Tradition 2, Sixth Edition NA Basic Text © 2008]


“The Twelve Traditions of N.A. are not negotiable. They are the guidelines that keep our Fellowship alive and free.” [Page 29, Twelve Traditions, First Edition NA Basic Text © 1982 / Page 56, Twelve Traditions, Third Edition Revised NA Basic Text © 1986 / Page 49, Twelve Traditions, Fifth Edition NA Basic Text © 1988 / Page 64, Twelve Traditions, Sixth Edition NA Basic Text © 2008]


For the first time in man’s entire history, a simple way has been proving itself in the lives of many addicts. It is available to us all. This is a simple spiritual — not religious — program, known as Narcotics Anonymous.”[Page 70, Chapter Eight, We Do Recover, Fifth Edition NA Basic Text © 1988 / Page 87, Chapter Eight, We Do Recover, Sixth Edition NA Basic Text © 2008]
These Chat Sites have been Reported as Offensive and Abusive, Lacking in Recovery. Some never grow up!
These Chat Sites show promise of Fun and Healthy Recovery. Let me know if that changes.
Lots of Meetings in Eugene but avoid "The Out to Lunch Bunch"
The GSR & 2 Secretaries threatened me to leave and never return
Not Welcome in their Meetings for quoting the NA Basic Text to Newcomers
"We're not interested in what you have to say about NA." & "I aught to kick your ass you fu@#en old cripple." The pleasantries of the New NA in Eugene
For The Record
The 4th Ed BT was a Failure in 1985 so the 3rd Ed Revised was published in 1986 but the 4th was still published in 1987
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Last Updated
November 11, 2015
Narcotics Anonymous is Not a Selfish Program
In response to the lies & defamatory rumors, that were being perpetuated within the NA fellowship by individuals ignorant of & indifferent to true spiritual recovery concepts, claiming that “..NA is a selfish program.”, in the mid 70's through 80's and still today, NA published a response in 1993, clarifying the fellowships’ opinion on the false claims, as follows: “Narcotics Anonymous is NOT a selfish program. In fact, the spirit of the Twelfth Step is grounded in the principle of  selfless service. Upholding this principle in our efforts to carry the message is of the utmost importance, both to our own spiritual state and to those to whom we are trying to carry the message.”..”Step Twelve has a paradoxical aspect in that the more we help others, the more we help ourselves. For instance, if we find ourselves troubled and our faith wavering, there are very few actions that have such an immediate uplifting effect on us as helping a newcomer. One small act of generosity can work wonders; our self-absorption diminishes and we end up with a better perspective on what previously seemed like overwhelming problems.” [Page 85, It Works – How & Why, © 1993]
Anyone who claims NA is a selfish program hasn't a clue what NA is. Doubtful they have even read any of the NA Literature
Robin_Y has undoubtedly disguised their name and is apparently hiding in the shadows pretending to be someone else. Can't hide the hatred they have for us though. It's said, that Satan roams about like a hungry Lion, looking for someone to devour. Proceed with Caution !!